Showing posts with label Dungeoneering. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Dungeoneering. Show all posts

August 20th, 2011

105 Dungeoneering. Finally feeling really comfortable with the skill. My teams are pretty consistently around the 30 minute mark as long as nobody gets disconnected. I realize there are groups who go faster but that's about the speed that causes my computer to get bad door lag. I really wish the skill had come out earlier in my Runescaping. But then again, being higher levels does it make it easier.

As much as Jagex got criticized for the "minigame" of it I think they did a lot of things right. There is a good time to take lower leveled people, you have to work as a team, you can't buy your way to being overpowered and dominating.

Would love to see a minigame for it though pitting two teams against each other. No keys. Race through doing guardian doors, puzzles and things of that nature. Points for kills, doors, puzzles etc.

August 11, 2011

Nightly construction assists are paying off with 98 Construction. And otherwise been doing nothing but dungeoneering. 104 Dungeoneering tonight.

Yes, I realize I could be maxed by now. Less then 5million xp. But I really enjoy dungeoneering and feel no hurry to get maxed. Got into a team that regularly gets floors less then 40 minutes without fighting and screaming. Going to keep running with them. The crazy thing is, at this pace, I won't get 120 dungeoneering for over a year. Not that I'm pushing that hard. Getting around 200k xp a day there and then wandering off.

August 1,2011

103 Dungeoneering 3 days ago. In with a good group of people who do it regularly enough that it's picking up the pace of my xp. Doing more keying, getting faster. I could be maxed by now but it's hard to say no when you log in and get asked to do a floor.

Got 99 Strength and 98 Cooking.

Started doing c2 and c3 floors. One person clears the floor, the other person skills like crazy. Getting around 50k an hour fishing xp plus cooking/firemaking/mining. Got on a streak of a crazy number of fishing spots per floor. Testing further.

July 24, 2011

Been hanging out at the sawmill making planks. Almost as fast as ivy but with more peace and better gameplay. Tossing in a little ivy when I want to be brain dead. Made it to 98 Woodcutting. Will probably do a combination of sawmill, ivy and the occasional evil tree with friends to get the next level.

Oh and Dungeoneering 102. I am really starting to to like this, 30 minute larges with friends makes it go by fast. At least for the summer while everyone is around quite a bit it's been easy to form teams.

And finally 98 Magic. I swear, I haven't trained this other then the circus, teleporting around and some time with friends at livid farm. The circus is just fast free xp.

With all the dungeoneering I'm doing can see that it's making an affect on all my xp. Which is great.

June 25, 2011

101 Dungeoneering. Not sure why. My friends keep inviting me along and I enjoy it. Otherwise I'm doing a lot of fish flinging (getting very close to that Champion's Tacklebox) and doing Artisan's Workshop for smithing xp. Trying to get construction and runecrafting assists. That's pretty much the extent of the training lately. May try to get all the rest of my naval outfits this weekend but it'll probably be a few more Saturdays.

If you're around on Saturday's at 3pm EST, World 104 Trouble Brewing is usually active.

January 31, 2011

Jan 15- 96 Mining
Jan 16-96 Attack
Jan 17-96 Defense
Jan 19-98 Dungeoneering
Jan 25-96 Strength
Jan 27-97 Magic
Jan 30-99 Dungeoneering
Nearly a whole month of not posting and not much skilling. My apologies. I usually post while I'm doing an afkable skill and there's no way to afk Dungeoneering.
That and at Christmas dinner some friends started talking about Glee. I thought this was the dumbest show I'd ever heard of since Knight Rider. But then I decided to check out an episde on Hulu. So then I had to watch the first 1.5 seasons that I missed out on. And for some of them I had to rewind and play again because they were fun. So the short story is, sorry but blame Glee for my lack of posts.
(And no, I have not rage quit since Wildy is coming back).

December 28, 2010

Got to 97 Dungeoneering. The last couple levels have gone fast. I've got one set of friends who like to do 3 man dungeons. We can get them done in less then 50 minutes usually. Another group of friends who like to do 5 mans and that takes 35-50 minutes. My personal best was a 35 minute 5:5 large. 89k xp or something like that.

December 23, 2010

I was closing in on 2400 and wanted to finish it before Christmas. So I pushed hard and got to 94 Fletching which brings all my skills to at least 94. With the assists I had been getting smithing xp and was coasting along. I dug out all the ores I had at a clan event and superheated a bunch of them. Then I found 2 half used sc hammers. I can free up and two bank spaces? Woohoo!! With dungeoneering bankspace is at a premium for me so I finished those out and got to 95 Smithing. So at this point I was sitting at 2396 and really wanted to just get 2400. I started looking at the effigies I had banked. I found a few woodcutting ones and got my hands on an axeman's folly. That gave me a couple of lamps that I used for Runecrafting. Then I found 4 thieving/construction 97's. I am not a fan of thieving and can always do assists for construction, but I decided I really wanted the bankspace more. So to my house, brewed up some tea, opened the effigies and hit 95 Construction and using the lamps on Runecrafting hit 95 Runecrafting. (side note: If you do rc effigies 91 and 93 are a pain to find. 95 is very easy. Something to look forward to).

About this time a friend asked me to join him dungeoneering. We ran through a few floors and when I looked it was 1am. I've got some time off work so this wasn't a big deal. But I also saw that I had gotten enough crimsons for 99 summoning. (Blues are too pricey for me). So I spent some dungeoneering points and got to 96 Dungeoneering. All that was left was 4 trips to the summoning obelisk in Gu'tanoth (I needed to buy shards too) and I found myself with 99 Summoning and 2400 total levels.

November 27, 2010

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Hope you all had a great week. I went to my first "Black Friday" in real life and I will never be doing that again.

Got 98 Prayer on Monday. Went and cashed in all the zeal I had from killing Nomad plus altared the bones I had left from my push to 98 and found myself just below 800k xp til 99. I'd been buying 100k gp worth of dragon bones a week since the mid 70's prayer. Admittedly, not the fastest way but it was consistent. Then I upgraded to 1million gp a week in dragon bones a few months ago. Again, not exciting but consistant.

Then spent the rest of the week working on slayer and got to 94 Slayer and 96 Constitution. I'm doing a few days of dungeoneering and a few days of slayer each week to break up the boredom. And I can't say I'm even thinking about constitution leveling, just seems to be a byproduct of leveling other combat skills.

So then the new update came out. And my friends needed apple/banana/orange seeds. I hadn't checked my kingdom since the last double xp weekend so I knew there'd be a lot in there. So I checked it and started shoving herbs and nests and seeds into the GE. Most sold pretty fast and I had a nice pile of cash in front of me. So I bought dragon bones. And got 99 Prayer. I also bought a bonecrusher and a dragontooth necklace. Combine those with extremes and I can pretty much pray turmoil through 60% of a slayer task without needing more prayer. Very very handy. Maybe not the best use of my points but at this point I have a lot of them so I'm willing to spend a few (the other thing I bought is the antipoison totem. Amazing. Useful in a lot of ways. Highly recommend it).

Anyways, been dungeoneering with a bit of fish flinging and star chasing mixed in the last few days. Got to 95 Dungeoneering. Been doing a mix of larges with friends and mediums solo (I c1 the first 30 or so floors unless friends want them for the XP).

November 19, 2010

Mad scramble before the holidays in the real world is impinging on my 'scaping.

I have managed to get a bunch of levels since my last post though:

93 Ranged, 94 Strength, 94 Attack, 94 Defense all through a combination of circus/slayer/dungeoneering.

I got burned out on dungeoneering after I hit 94 Dungeoneering and pretty much quit doing it except with a few friends. Tried to do a large floor last night and it was a miserable experience. Not because I don't like it, but because I kind of forgot what to do. Going to do some solo floors over the next few days to get used to it again. Mostly slayed since last week. Got 2 whips and sold them and some other stuff from slaying and bought a lot of dragon bones. Ran through 3 pack yaks of altaring bones and getting close to leveling. I have 98 banked and a bit beyond that. 99 Prayer may be doable by the end of December. It really depends though on how much dungeoneering I do.

I'm thinking of 3 days of dungeoneering and 3 days of slaying a week. I keep getting asked when I'll get my next 99 or if I'm going for all 99's at once. To be honest, I don't "go for 99" because I get bored along the way. So I switch skills every few days. Which makes it look like I'm going for all skills 99 at once.

Anyways, decided that my next goal is 2400 total levels. It's pretty attainable (January?) and buys me time to figure out what I want to do next.

November 8, 2010

Only level to report this week is 93 Dungeoneering. I've pretty much quit actively training it but I still love running with my friends and helping out new people. So it's been drifting upwards. I've got a couple of friends who are training for 99 or 120 and always try to answer the call when they need a 5th.
I had a couple of floors with people who were leeching. One guy tried to justify it to say that I'm getting a 5% bonus for his being there. Well, fine, but I'm also taking a lot more damage and it's taking a lot more time so no, the 5% bonus isn't worth it. Another person I just called out on it. Otherwise though I've had a blast with this. And considering how many floors I've run I can't say enough good things about my friends and comrades in arm.

Still haven't gotten a plan together for year 5. And no, I wasn't thinking of quitting. Maybe throttling back a little though.

The funny thing about dungeoneering is that it's made me more of a team player. I usually prefer to skill solo and hang out in a clan chat or read a magazine or surf the web. But if you are in a dungeon you kind of have to pay attention. Which makes you interact more. There's a few people that I have rarely talked to but that I know from something who are now on my friends list. It started out as "this person is really dungeoneering a lot I should add them so we can team" to actually talking about stuff other then teams and dungeons. I'm not saying the skill is perfect, but to all the people who are raging about not wanting to form teams.....seriously...chill out and have fun. Sure there are idiots. Just endure them and remember to add the good ones to your friends list.

And this leads to my next thought. People are way too focused on bad people. I hear raging about how how awful a dungeoneering team is or that this person did this dumb thing etc. Or, heaven forbid, you show up without a prommy 2hander. Really? And it's not just in dungeons but let's start there. How often do you hear: I was on a great team, people laughed, this guy fished for me and we had fun? Or Yeah, it was a tough boss but my team pushed on and it was too bad I died but we worked it out? Instead it's rage rage rage. I realize it's human nature, but give me a break. Sure there's people that I'd rather not dungeon with. But to be honest (and fair) it falls into 2 categories. People who are just asses. They are noticable but to be honest they are just another vocal minority. You find them, figure out what they are and just don't go with them again. And then there's people who are trying to find their way. Maybe they have nothing bound, or something underpowered. Or they haven't done group dungeons before and don't know what "gd ggs" means. We've all been there recently. Why not just pm them and ask them if they understand? If they are new they will appreciate the help, if they are an ass you'll confirm it. And don't say they should just know. Nobody just "knows" an acronym or the difference between a tooler and a keyer or that whatever. (And before you rant at me about "well you have high level friends who are nice you don't go to w117" I DO go to w117. And I have met jerks and nice people.)

Which brings me to my next point (I had a lot of coffee this morning). What's up with people being so flipping intolerant of new people? Seriously! Have you never been the new person in class/work/club/team/party/whatever? Do you not remember what it's like to walk in to a situation where everyone knows everyone else and try to fit in? You see it in public and in other areas. People whining about not having friends in game or everyone being a jerk. But then they turn around and turn off public or ignore people who are "green" to them or decide that because someone is a bit awkward or doesn't understand their "cool" inside joke that they should be treated badly. Hello!! You don't make friends if your public is off all the time! People are jerks to you because you are a jerk to them. Yes, there are certainly some people who should be ignore or are total head cases. But most of the time I find that people ask to add me. People want to connect with people. Otherwise we'd be sitting at home playing single player games. Yeah, I don't always chat when woodcutting/fishing/whatever. I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying, the people who whine about the RS community are just as guilty of the behaviors that they whine about as their targets.

October 26, 2010

As I draw to a close on my 4th year I've been pushing to mop up levels. Got to 93 Strength and 93 Slayer. Funny thing, I haven't gotten an effigy in 8 tasks. Task 9, living rock creatures I get one. Next task, hellhounds I get 2. Just random.

By the way, cannoning hellhounds in the Taverly resource dungeon is great. Fast and quiet.

Knocked out 97 Crafting. Had a bunch of air orbs. And of course, once I get to less then 50k xp I started pulling out all my other crafting supplies. I'll be busy alching leather armor now.

Then 98 Summoning. This is the first time in about a year I actually intended to do summoning for xp. Mostly I do it in dungeons and when I need the pouches. I think I have enough charms now, but I don't want to spend the money. I'd rather keep getting little bits of xp from dungeoneering and waiting to see what happens.

Got to 93 Cooking and 93 Fishing. Mostly cause I was close. It's funny but with dungeoneering xp does sneak up on you. Have done little bits of fish flinging too so I just finished off the levels. I fished for about 20 minutes in Piscatoris with a friend and thought it was the most boring thing ever. I may start doing fish flinging daily just to chip away at it and guarantee that I'll never have to actually fish.

And finally, 90 and 91 Dungeoneering. I'm really enjoying this skill. And yes, I've had some bad teams and some good teams. But it's just fun. It's different though. Nobody I know who's done it for a bit doesn't get into it. Especially when you're going with friends.

That brings me up to 2367.

I have to tell you a secret though. I was woodcutting while waiting for a friend. Some guy asked me my woodcutting level. I said 96. He said lucky. And he was secretly right. I didn't spend hours standing chopping trees. See, I fell into one of those pits in Lleyta. And as I stood up my hand brushed against a piece of metal. It was a bit tarnished but it had some writing on it. So I rubbed it on my sleeve and.....a giant genie appeared. And he gave me a wish and I asked for 9million woodcutting xp and Poof! 96 woodcutting.

Really hoping I get lucky again and find a 96 Dungeoneering lamp.

October 19, 2010

An incredibly busy week. Finally really got the hang of dungeoneering and got 88 and 89 Dungeoneering. Still a mix of friends and w117 randoms. Getting pretty good at getting into a floor and getting through them quickly. Learning a few tricks here and there.

Also got 93 Smithing and 94 Construction with effigy assists and smelting little amounts of gold ore while waiting for people. What I really want are 91 RC assists but they are hard to find. And if a friend needs an assist I'm happy to help if I can. So I have been getting some runecraft assists. I see a lot of people looking to do assists in runecrafting and farming. Hard to find people for construction and smithing. So I take what I can quickly and figure that I can use penguins/lamps/diaries to get to 93 and maybe have a broader scope of people to go after.

Got a little burned out on dungeoneering. It's a high focus skill. So I did some slaying. I love hellhound tasks now! It's so easy to cannon them in the Taverly resource dungeon (the one you can access after level 40 or whatever Dungeoneering). I've had 3 tasks there and never seen anyone there. Set up a cannon and go. It's not as fast as mutated bloodvelds because of how the spawns are set up but it's a lot faster then just meleeing them. Plus, since they don't drop much it's easier to grab what you want and go full throttle.

Got a few clues. Nothing exciting except that I got a Saradomin Platebody! It's my second one so I sold it and bought the full helm and have a request in for the shield so I can complete the set.

Otherwise I'm looking for a team to do floor 45 with. Or I may just go w117 it on Thursday or Friday. Kind of switching between slaying and dungeoneering with a bit of fletching/smithing/crafting while I stand around semi afk.

And right before posting this I hit 93 Attack and 93 Defense while finishing an Abyssal Demon task. That's 2359 total levels now.

October 12, 2010

A friend had a house party with an open altar over the weekend. That pushed my prayer along and I hit 97 Prayer. Just 2 levels (and 50m gp) to 99. Also got to 87 Dungeoneering.

I've been doing one floor every other day or so in W117. I haven't had many bad teams, had a few great teams and mostly good teams. The xp is such that it's worth the 10mins of getting organized to do that.

Started the new Void quest. Haven't finished it yet. Did the boss fight 2x and lost interest. Maybe I'm still hung over from my Nomad standoffs. But I'll get it done soon (I think). I have 2 diaries left to do and they both hinge on my killing Jad. Waiting for Kuradel to assign him to me before I go down that path.

October 3, 2010

Busy few days. Managed to get 96 Magic a few days ago. It's so much a skill a train as a skill I use and happen to get XP. The only thing I do that gives alot of xp would be alching all those air battlestaffs I make. Otherwise it's just little bits and pieces from teleporting, dungeoneering etc. (Which is why I'm not very helpful if asked how to train Magic.)

Did a bunch of slaying and got to 92 Attack and Defense. I finished my task right after I got these levels and went to 117 Daemonheim to see about doing some assists. I was 6k xp away from 92 Strength and 130 Combat. I saw a guy advertising for floor 40 and traded him so I could join. He invited me, I was looking at my teams stats, and found myself booted. 130+only! Oops.

So I went and did 2 dungeons and got the xp and 92 Strength. And 130 combat. I guess that's good because I can use W117 now and get easier teams. But to be honest, I don't really want to. I'm slow at dungeoneering, I get tangled up in combat. And I have a lot of friends who atm are training like crazy so I tag along with them.

Which lead to 94 Constitution and 85 Dungeoneering for a total level of 2350.

And then 86 Dungeoneering for the fun of it.

So I've reached my goal at the beginning of this year. As I reach my 4th anniversary I have all skills to at least 92 and a few to 96. (If last year they were below 92 I wanted to get 92 and below 96 get them to 96). I got a few skills (mining, herblore, constitution, summoning) way past that.

Now I've got a month left in this year to think about what I want to do next year. I'd really love to get 90 Dungeoneering this month too, we'll see.

September 16, 2010

Got to 92 Runecrafting. Wasn't planning on it. Just started chipping away at the elite diaries, did a few assists (I have to say that 91 RC is the HARDEST thing to find). Anyways, I got it without planning on it as I was assisting someone and then fireworks!!

Got 83 Dungeoneering. The more I do this skill the more I like it. It feels like a skill, not such a grind.

6 weeks til my 4 year anniversary. On track for all my goals and thinking about my year 5 plans. I have a few things on my list but not sure what else.

Just a question but when penguin hunting....do you really need to know where the McGrubor's Wood or Dragontooth Isle penguins are? Really? Cause I can see with Gnome Stronghold, Jatiszo, Neitznot etc that those are pretty big areas with room to hide. But McG's? Dragontooth? You could run the whole thing in less then a minute.

September 10, 2010

To end bonus xp weekend I got 82 Dungeoneering. I put in 22 total hours over 4 days of bonus, a bit more then I usually do. So that put me at 2335. I want to get to 2350 by the time I get to the end of my year (October 31). So 15 levels isn't too bad.

Spent Tuesday and Wednesday gathering rocks for the statue. Built my fourth one on Wednesday. Looked a thte elite diaries when they came out and decided to put them off to work on other goals.

Then the next day I changed my mind. My Argougne was already done. And I needed to fight Nomad. And Jad. The rest would be pretty easy. So I worked on some rocks and thought about how I wanted to do this. I was really hoping that I could find 2 people a day that needed 91 runecrafting effigy assists. I was really wrong. If I tried I could get 1 if I hung out in the assist chat and Daemonehim in 117. (So if anyone wants a 91 rc assist let me know!!) So now I want 93 RC to make it easier to find people to assist.

So anyways, I borrowed a BGS from a friend and geared up. Aksed a number of friends what to take and got a lot of advice. Died 7 times. Time 8 I knew I was going to make it. I got a bgs spec on him, hit a few 750's with the ruby bolts, spammed the kyatt attack and it went pretty fast. I had gotten him down to his melee frenzy once before and he had healed back up. So I knew I needed to step out and just beat on him. Which is exactly what I did. Spammed the kyatt, bgs spec again, lots of arrow shots and it was over. I had such a rush that I kind of was an idiot for the next half hour. So that was 2 down.

Lumby, not much to it. Did what I needed to do (does anyone ever use the anvil in the Draynor tunnels? why do I need to light a log on a random building?)

Then came Seers. Why not have me pick a coconut from my tree? How about barehanding a shark at Catherby? Nope, had to grow a potato!! And catch a tuna and salmon? Ok....medium level maybe. But elite? Why not make me chop down a mage tree and make a mage long from scratch? That would have made a lot more sense.

Anyways, got that done. And the Falador one (why not go into a resource dungeon? This one I found annoying too in that it was "go find this obscure place and do this thing that you would never do" to ge things crossed off)

So now I'm stuck. Karamaja I need to beat Jad, Relleka I need to kill an Ice Strykeworm. And I don't want to spend the 2k slayer points if I need to get a fire cape anyways. So I'll wait and keep working on slayer until I get a Jad task.

So if you need 91 Runecrafting I reset at 5pm EST or around that time. Let me know and I'll be happy to help.

September 5, 2010

About 2/3 of the way through the bonus weekend for me.

Spent the last week kind of getting ready for it. Unlike the previous weekend I had no skills that I had hard and fast goals for. As I blogged previously, I knew more about what I didn't want to do then what I did want to. Did the penguins in Tuesday night (right when they came out) and cashed in those points. Wednesday, after I reset the statue I got 2 rcing rocks and with it came 91 Runecrafting! Double nats plus effigies. (though as I've come to find out, finding people in need with for 91 runecrafting is a bit tricky. I usually see 3 or 4 other people advertising that they are offering 91 rcing).

Anyways, I made unfinished pots, gathered rocks, sold off all my herbs from 3 months of miscellania and bought a lot of dragon bones (not used yet, thinking of using them next weekend.) Went with a few friends dungeoneering. I'm running around like a crazy person and suddenly the magic fireworks go off. 91 Cooking?!?! I was close and someone cooked a bunch of fish and I guess it pushed me over.

Anyways, bonus weekend came. Started at the circus. Was watching the xp fall. Love the circus as a first stop. Range and mage are both slow for me. Then made pots. Had about 150 Torstols and made them all into overloads. 97 Herblore. Less then 30 minutes in and got my first level. Took off on a thieving tear and got to 91 Thieving within the first 2 hours. The intensity wore me down a bit so I did some cooking. And slaying. Loved slaying. First gargoyles which went fast since I used overloads/turmoil (trying to max out my bonus). Then I got abby spectres. Grabbed my cannon and headed to Pollinveach. Was hoping that nobody was there and got really lucky. Started cannoning and whipping spectres. Took a yak and grabbed up the good drops. No levels but a lot of xp there. By now I was 6 hours into it. Decided to take a breather and did some cooking while thinking about what to do next. A few more hours of thieving got me to 92 Thieving. The last 200k took forever. I kept getting bored and logging out. Anyways, in there I mixed in some dungeoneering runs too. Friends were organizing runs and I went along. Made it to 80 and then 81 Dungeoneering.

Not bad for 2 days worth of skilling.

August 28, 2010

Nearly done with all the end of summer house maintenance. Not had much time to skill or blog. Got to 91 Attack, Defense, Strength and 92 Hitpoints. Hit 79 Dungeoneering. Probably some other skills or two and hit 2326 total.

Been thinking about what to do for bonus xp weekend.

Agility, Farming and Hunter are off the table.

I can get better XP using SC tools with mining, woodcutting,fletching, smithing, construction.
Firemaking I'd rather use my gauntlets and ring. And at 97 I have no use to raise it at the moment.

Wasteful to use it on Summoning (at least in the first 10 hours). Same with dungeoneering and prayer.

Slayer is tempting.

Magic may be but....can't get excited about it.

Herblore....got 96...close to 97. But it'll be expensive. And I can sell the herbs and seconds that I have for a lot of cash. Hmmmm.....

Crafting. Battlestaffs. Tempting....not excited though.

Thieving....dislike it but at double xp and I don't have to fight people for room....tempting.

Fishing, cooking, runecrafting are potentials.

I'm putting together 2 lists.....1.1 xp and the first ten hours.

First ten hours:
Circus-should take 3 mins and give me a bucketload of mage and range xp.
Herblore (just making overloads and sara brews as I don't need anything else and don't want to lose a bunch of money making pots I won't use).
Crafting-battlestaffs and cutting gems. Should be fast easy cheap.
Thieving. Was thinking of doing runecrafting. One more week of penguins and rocks should put me at 91. After that I can assist......
Cooking/Fishing-I might do this if I get bored with thieving. But I enjoy these both and kind of think I'll spend the time working on skills I dislike.

After 10 hours:
Slayer and dungeoneering. I'm thinking of just small rushing all floors. 10% doesn't sound like much but it all helps.

Any thoughts?
91 Smithing, 78 Dungeoneering and I know I'm forgetting something. Anyways, been in and out of RS. It's hot here and I've been trying to get some end of summer stuff done. (Side note: Painting gutters is not fun).

Anyways, I really like dungeoneering. I've got 34 floors done in this run and I'm waiting for the update to do 35. Hoping I can get to 79 Dungeoneering before I have to reset. I did a floor 1 over the weekend and at 35 prestige even that wasn't bad xp (ok, so not great but not painful to see).

Anyways, once the update comes out I'll be doing a bunch of dungeoneering (thinking of spending the weekend pushing hard on it) so if you're looking for someone feel free to shout.

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